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Acheron_
Posted on: Jan 1 2010, 12:28 AM


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all best wishes and hope for a full,fast recovery !
  Forum: Introductions | Καλωσορίσατε · Post Preview: #3156 · Replies: 4 · Views: 386

Acheron_
Posted on: Nov 4 2009, 11:40 PM


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This thread didn't go all that merry so maybe this will help.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dmPchuXIXQ...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBZne09Gf5A...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjUrib_Gh0Y...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BVNN1wqw3k...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BVNN1wqw3k...feature=related
  Forum: The Cafe | 'To Kαφενείο' · Post Preview: #3146 · Replies: 1 · Views: 213

Acheron_
Posted on: Oct 13 2009, 02:53 AM


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if they get citizenship don't they also get a passport ? Think that the rest of Europe will appreciate that ?
  Forum: National Issues · Post Preview: #3125 · Replies: 6 · Views: 114

Acheron_
Posted on: Oct 6 2009, 03:49 PM


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You sound as if you are surprised Ajax ! Don't you know that every 8 years they change !
  Forum: National Issues · Post Preview: #3108 · Replies: 19 · Views: 289

Acheron_
Posted on: Oct 3 2009, 12:24 AM


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QUOTE (Marios @ Oct 1 2009, 01:39 PM) *
Aren't these practices an act of treason?


it's not politicaly correct to call it that ! sad.gif the fact that they are tolerated and passed unoticed is just amazing !
  Forum: National Issues · Post Preview: #3101 · Replies: 19 · Views: 289

Acheron_
Posted on: Oct 3 2009, 12:17 AM


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He is one hell of a mind,his corporation has been making some serious moves.40 new planes for Olympic and they are now doing moves to take back the airways on the Balkan region.
  Forum: National Issues · Post Preview: #3100 · Replies: 2 · Views: 133

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Posted on: Sep 30 2009, 06:45 AM


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and here is who we shouldn't vote for

QUOTE
ΒΟΥΛΕΥΤΙΚΕΣ ΕΚΛΟΓΕΣ 2009


Στις επόμενες βουλευτικές εκλογές , στις 4 Οκτωβρίου 2009, οι Μακεδόνες ψηφίζουμε Οικολόγους Πράσινους γιατί αυτό το κόμμα, που είναι πολύ κοντά στο να μπει στη Βουλή, έχει στο πρόγραμμα του ξεκάθαρες θέσεις για θέματα ανθρωπίνων δικαιωμάτων και μειονοτήτων.

Αλλά δεν είναι μόνο αυτός ο λόγος, για τον οποίο οι εθνικά Μακεδόνες θα πρέπει να ψηφήσουμε τους Οικολόγους Πράσινους: ο σημαντικότερος λόγος είναι ότι έχουν ως υποψήφιο βουλευτή στη λίστα τους για τον νομό Πέλλας, τον Γιώργο Κωνσταντίνου, έναν εθνικά Μακεδόνα ακτιβιστή για την οικολογία, τα δικαιώματα των Μακεδόνων και μέλος για πολλά χρόνια του ΕΕΣ-Ουρανιο Τόξο (αυτό, φυσικά, δεν σημαίνει ότι το Ουράνιο Τόξο και οι Οικολόγοι Πράσινοι έχουν συμφωνήσει για κάποια εκλογική συνεργασία. Και γιατί να το κάνουν αυτό, άλλωστε, οι Ο.Π . αφού το κόμμα των εθνικά Μακεδόνων είναι σχεδόν ανύπαρκτο στα πολιτικά δρώμενα της Ελλάδας και το μόνο που το απασχολεί σε κάθε εθνική εκλογική αναμέτρηση είναι πώς θα βοηθηθεί το Πασοκ (και ιδιαίτερα ο κύριος Λιάνης) να πάρει την μερίδα του λέοντος από τις ψήφους των Μακεδόνων στο νομό Φλώρινας;).


Η πολιτική θέση των Οικολόγων Πράσινων δεν με ικανοποίει στο θέμα της διαμάχης της Ελλάδας για την ονομασία της Δημοκρατίας της Μακεδονίας και θα προτιμούσα μια πιο θαρραλέα στάση τους: υπάρχει κράτος που ονομάζεται Μακεδονία γιατί υπάρχει Μακεδονικό έθνος και όχι το ανάποδο.
Πριν υπάρξει μακεδονικό κράτος υπήρχαν Μακεδόνες σε όλη την γεωγραφική περιοχή που ονομάζεται Μακεδονία, πριν ακόμα αυτή μοιραστεί στα τέσσερα γειτονικά κράτη (Ελλάδα, Βουλγαρία, Σερβία και Αλβανία). Η θέση τους ότι κανείς δεν είναι πιο Μακεδόνας από όλους τους κατοίκους της Μακεδονίας, δεν με πείθει: δεν υπάρχουν ΠΙΟ Μακεδόνες από άλλους, υπάρχουν όμως οι ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΕΣ, σκέτο. Όλοι οι άλλοι κάτοικοι της Μακεδονίας αυτοπροσδιορίζονται ΕΘΝΙΚΑ με άλλο όνομα (Έλληνες, Βούλγαροι, Σέρβοι, Αλβανοί, Αρβανίτες, Ρομά η Αθίγγανοι, Τούρκοι, Βλάχοι, κτλ).

Σε αυτές τις εκλογές πρέπει οι Μακεδόνες να δείξουμε την δύναμη μας, ψηφίζοντας τους Ο.Π. και ιδιαίτερα στο νομό Πέλλας ,τον υποψήφιο τους ΓΙΩΡΓΟ ΚΩΝΣΤΑΝΤΙΝΟΥ. Ίσως, με αυτό τον τρόπο, και αλλά κόμματα, σε επόμενες εκλογικές αναμετρήσεις, να ακολουθήσουν το παράδειγμα των Ο.Π. και βάλουν στις λίστες τους Μακεδόνες υποψηφίους, σε όλους τους Νομούς της Μακεδονίας, όπως γίνεται με τους Τούρκους στη Θράκη.

Δυστυχώς, μέχρι σήμερα οι Μακεδόνες δεν είχαν την πολιτική υποστήριξη από κανένα ελληνικό κόμμα, εάν εξαιρέσουμε το ΜΟΝΑΔΙΚΟ παράδειγμα της ΦΙΛΕΛΕΥΘΕΡΗΣ ΣΥΜΜΑΧΙΑΣ (δεν συμμετέχει σε αυτές τις εκλογές) και κάποια μικρά αριστερά κόμματα.

ΚΑΛΗ ΨΗΦΟ, ΑΔΕΛΦΙΑ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΕΣ!
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http://belomorskamacedonia.blogspot.com/2009/09/2009.html



any questions ?
  Forum: National Issues · Post Preview: #3086 · Replies: 19 · Views: 289

Acheron_
Posted on: Sep 28 2009, 06:56 PM


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QUOTE
Australia's official stance on the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM)


Australian Macedonian Advisory CouncilSeptember 14, 2009
I am writing to direct your attention towards the impending visit of the Prime Minister of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM), Mr. Nikola Gruevski, to Australia in late October.

Various sources imply the purpose of Mr. Gruevski´s visit is to sign a bilateral Social Security agreement between the FYROM and Australia. Whilst we shall receive him in good faith, the Prime Minister´s sojourn carries with it subtle overtones of the Macedonian naming dispute, an international issue deemed of critical importance to the Greek community of Victoria and Australia.

As it stands, the dispute can be understood as an ongoing disagreement between Greece and the neighbouring Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) over the rightful use of the name Macedonia. Greece strongly opposes the post-1991 constitutional name of its northern neighbour on grounds of ambiguity between this newly formed Balkan nation and the adjacent Greek province of Macedonia, and consequently of the FYROM´s continual misappropriation of the name´s historical and cultural significance.

This dispute has escalated to the highest level of international mediation where numerous attempts to achieve a resolution were wrought by the United Nations. These negotiations, necessitated by UN Special Representative Matthew Nimetz, warranted a mutually satisfying outcome for both countries. To date, they remain a work-in-progress and pending final resolution (http://www.un.org/documents/ga/res/47/a47r225.htm), the provisional reference of FYROM has been adopted bilaterally by states which do not recognise the constitutional name Republic of Macedonia.

Australia does not recognise the FYROM under its constitutional name. This official sanction complies with the stance of the Australian Macedonian Advisory Council (AMAC) on the matter and is to be highly commended since recognition under its constitutional name would impart lack of disambiguation, especially by insinuating ties with the kingdom of Ancient Macedonia and the legacy of the Macedonian kings. Here, we reference a cultural legacy to which the people of this newly formed nation have no viable claim. In addition, Australia´s position deters the FYROM from any territorial claims their government might incite against the Greek province of Macedonia in any near future.

At this time, I will not engage you with a lengthy dissertation on historical truth. Any historian or scholar involved in serious critical inquiry will honestly disclose that the history of Macedonia (the geographical region) is an integral part of Greek history and that its actors were the Macedonian Greeks, from before Alexander the Great to the Greeks of the Byzantine Empire and the contemporary ones (http://macedonia-evidence.org/).

Of course, the southern part of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia was a part of Ancient Macedonia. Superficially Slavicised (mainly linguistically) inhabitants of Greek descent still preserving some of their ancient customs can be found there, but the fact remains that when one references Ancient Macedonia, you can be sure they´re alluding to Greece´s northernmost province, Greek Macedonia.



The borders of historical Macedon never encompassed Skopje or any of its surrounding districts. Its successive capitals were Vergina (Aegeai) and Pella respectively, but decades of misinformation, indoctrination and aggressive activism by FYROM´s government in its own country and abroad has substantiated false impressions, chiefly that Macedonia is Skopje–an ethnic group with its own independently evolved language, history, customs and religion.

Many Australians have been misled by this continuous propaganda, their ignorance of history, unwillingness to take initiative and educate themselves, lack of conscientiousness and to an extent, anomalous inertness on the part of the Greeks, who remained calm and assured the past few decades because they supposed a culture based on erroneous beliefs could not possibly evade extinction. As a result, a climate conducive to dangerous activities has proliferated surreptitiously in both in Australia and abroad.

It is well known that maps of Macedonia circulate showing Skopje as the capital, while Kavala, Thessaloniki and other Greek precincts appear as sections of a unified Macedonia. Many Skopjian newspapers, and particular The Australian Macedonian Weekly based in Melbourne, are notorious for engaging in such unlawful and un-Australian behaviour by publishing articles of a highly offensive and defamatory nature. Such newspapers express an organised campaign against Greece´s national integrity, aiming at the amputation of Northern Greece and undermining the policy of peace in the Balkans–one adopted by the entire spectrum of political parties.

In these publications, maps of Greece showing cities and rivers of Macedonia are not entered in their Greek names but changed into Slavic ones. In violation of the international practice prescribed by the U.N, the government of the FYROM continues to deny the use of Greek names, disregarding the notion that these names have a 3500 year-old Hellenic history behind them. The use of Slavic toponyms is intended to casts doubt on Greek sovereignty in the Macedonian space. Furthermore, the people of the FYROM never use the term Greek Macedonia; they speak only of Aegean Macedonia. That is, a part of the whole.

Returning to the issue at hand, all UN member-states and the UN as a whole, have agreed to accept any final agreement resulting from negotiations between Greece and the FYROM. In light of this adjudication, I strongly urge you to comply with the official standing of the Australian government if and when a bilateral agreement between FYROM and Australia is affected.

In closing, I shall again elucidate that acknowledging this nation under its provisional name (FYROM) until a mutually-accepted resolution is wrought will not only prevent further ambiguity of a highly convoluted affair, but stand as a gesture of both respect and good will towards the Greek government and its Hellenic Diaspora by pacifying their budding unrest.

Written by: Paul Kiritsis

Executive Director

Australian Macedonian Advisory Council

info@macedonian.com.au

http://www.macedonian.com.au/forum
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Acheron_
Posted on: Sep 28 2009, 11:27 AM


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The Balkan region has always been in some form of conflict. Stupid visions of a unified ''M***nia'' and a ''great Albania'' when average people take the fall.


Albania needs to know that most of the civilized world has given up on provocative territorial claims and Skopia should focus on the benefit of its people by establishing alliances instead of making enemies.
  Forum: National Issues · Post Preview: #3071 · Replies: 9 · Views: 171

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Posted on: Sep 28 2009, 11:12 AM


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I know it looks long and boring but if you can spare some time,do read it.
It may seplify a lot of jiberish !


link
  Forum: The Cafe | 'To Kαφενείο' · Post Preview: #3070 · Replies: 1 · Views: 213

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Posted on: Sep 28 2009, 11:03 AM


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When the rest of the world suffers this is what big political party waste the peoples money on....
HEAR 'EM AND WEEP !
  Forum: News and Politics | Nέα και πολιτικά · Post Preview: #3069 · Replies: 3 · Views: 161

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Posted on: Sep 28 2009, 10:49 AM


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Stream the movie now and you can thank me later.

link
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Acheron_
Posted on: Sep 28 2009, 10:42 AM


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chicken

left or right ?
  Forum: Games | 'Παιχνίδια' · Post Preview: #3067 · Replies: 41 · Views: 942

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Posted on: Sep 28 2009, 10:39 AM


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i have that on my favs ,so i know what words you searched for when you found it tongue.gif
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Posted on: Sep 22 2009, 07:27 AM


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Kopis style Hellenic signature swords,Vergina stars,Korynthian helmet and doric columns.I wont be too surprised if i see meanders and a statue of Athena !


I never had a doubt about the Serbian support since several of them have contact with people I know (mostly tourists in Chalkidiki) and it also works the other way around for Greeks on the Kosovo issue.

Never the less,as a paranoid conspiracy theorist I bet there's loads going on under the table.
  Forum: National Issues · Post Preview: #3048 · Replies: 22 · Views: 399

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Posted on: Sep 22 2009, 06:38 AM


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just saw it and honestly,if they had broadcasted the one from an older elections instead I don't think that anyone could tell.
  Forum: National Issues · Post Preview: #3047 · Replies: 19 · Views: 289

Acheron_
Posted on: Sep 21 2009, 03:37 AM


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that is coz occasionally some people need to take the fall for the rest of terrible things going on.
  Forum: News and Politics | Nέα και πολιτικά · Post Preview: #3036 · Replies: 3 · Views: 103

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Posted on: Sep 21 2009, 03:33 AM


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this is a very old post i hadn't seen and i regret seeing ! yuk !
  Forum: The Cafe | 'To Kαφενείο' · Post Preview: #3035 · Replies: 3 · Views: 176

Acheron_
Posted on: Sep 21 2009, 03:22 AM


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And this picture is a perfect answer for this picture !




link

EDIT:
this is even more amusing !
  Forum: Sports corner | Aθλητική γωνία · Post Preview: #3034 · Replies: 5 · Views: 129

Acheron_
Posted on: Sep 21 2009, 03:16 AM


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something from down under

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfxw9VO0btk...feature=related
  Forum: Funny Jokes | 'Αστεία και Γελiα' · Post Preview: #3033 · Replies: 5 · Views: 234

Acheron_
Posted on: Sep 19 2009, 05:17 AM


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maybe they forgot,how very convenient !
  Forum: National Issues · Post Preview: #3024 · Replies: 2 · Views: 103

Acheron_
Posted on: Sep 18 2009, 05:20 PM


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I honestly wanna go to their archeological museum (if they have one) to see the vessels and coins with the Greek inscriptions on them,maybe ask them to translate for me biggrin.gif

go on,lets see it !
  Forum: National Issues · Post Preview: #3020 · Replies: 22 · Views: 399

Acheron_
Posted on: Sep 16 2009, 03:12 AM


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now that's what i call a sirtaki !
  Forum: The Cafe | 'To Kαφενείο' · Post Preview: #3015 · Replies: 2 · Views: 144

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Posted on: Sep 13 2009, 05:20 AM


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welcome onboard friend,its good to gave you here.

As you have already mentioned,this not a conflict between people but nations.
People are easily manipulated and made to believe what ever is forced to them.The situation has been very stressed in the Balkan region and FYR is in a very unstable state simply because its consisted of many different nationalities.

In order to keep them all together they needed a national identity so they fabricated one.


I am not Macedonian myself (I am from Athens)but my beliefs would had been the same ever if we were talking about two countries that didn't concern me as a Greek.

I refuse to accept the use of that name simply because its geographically in accurate,it provokes territorial claims and its insulting to a nations history,heritage and identity.
  Forum: National Issues · Post Preview: #3003 · Replies: 22 · Views: 399

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Posted on: Sep 10 2009, 09:26 PM


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over 40.000 ohmy.gif they will be all out of gemista in no time ! lol
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